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Islam is the new Religion ! Fake Myth Exposed

Posted on: January 14, 2012


In The name of Allah,The Most Merciful,The Most gracious

Islam is the new religion -Fake Myth Exposed ! 

All Prophets of God were Muslims 

Islam haters always claim that “Muhammad s.a.w started a New FAKE Religion after jesus 600 years” and Allah is not there God. nauzbillah.

According to them Islam is not Gods religion,Its created by Muhammad s.a.w.

but as Usual : speaking without logic and evidences.. 

I just have 1 question related to this. Question will distroy this claim easily. 

IF MUHAMMAD S.A.W WAS THE CREATOR OF ISLAM,THEN HE MUST BE KNOWN AS FIRST MESSENGER OF GOD not LAST.

but he is known as “Last Messenger of God” .this means there must be some 1st,2nd,3rd,4th messenger of God. 

and they were Adam,Abraham….Dawood A.s,solomon A.s,jesus A.s and then at last its Muhammad s.a.w.so,Its Clear Islam is not the new religion.

“Who would forsake the religion of Abraham (Islam), except one who fools his own soul? We have chosen him in this world, and in the Hereafter he will be with the righteous. When his Lord said to him, “Submit,” he said, “I submit to the Lord of the universe.”

Moreover,

Abraham exhorted his children to do the same, and so did Jacob: “O my children, Allah has pointed out the religion (Islam) for you; do not die except as submitters (Muslims).”

Had you witnessed Jacob on his death bed; he said to his children, “What will you worship after I die?”

They said, “We will worship your god; the god of your fathers Abraham, Ismail, and Isaac; the one god. To Him we are submitters.” [Qur’an 2:130-133]

“Verily! We really hope that our Lord will forgive us our sins, as we are the first of the believers in Mûsa (Moses) and in the Monotheism which he has brought from Allâh.” [Qur’an 26:51]

The Qur’an is not presenting Moses (as) as the first ever believer (Muslim) but as the first believer relative to the time and place Moses was in (i.e. the first to believe amongst his people).

This is basic Tafsir and logic.

Muhammad (saws) is not the first Muslim.

“Say (O Muhammad): “Verily, my Salât (prayer), my sacrifice, my living, and my dying are for Allâh, the Lord of the Alamîn (mankind, jinns and all that exists). He has no partner. And of this I have been commanded, and I am the first of the Muslims.” [Qur’an 6:162-163]

So if we use the Qur’an we realise that Muhammed (saws) is not being put forward as the first ever Muslim as the Qur’an (elsewhere) refers to earlier Prophets who are believers. Hence we realise that the Quranic references (6:163, 6:14) do not teach us that Muhammed is the first ever Muslim.

Islam started from ADAM,this is why muhammad s.a.w is being known as “Last Messenger of  GOD” .

‘Allah took a covenant from the prophets, saying, “I will give you the scripture and wisdom. Afterwards, a messenger (Muhammad) will come to confirm all existing scriptures (Torah, Gospel). You shall believe in him and support him.” He said, “Do you agree with this, and pledge to fulfill this covenant?” They said, “We agree.” He said, “You have thus borne witness, and I bear witness along with you.” [Qur’an 3:81]

“O People of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), there has come to you Our Messenger (Muhammad) to make clear to you [the religion] after a period [of suspension] of messengers, lest you say, “There came not to us any bringer of good tidings or a warner.” But there has come to you a bringer of good tidings and a warner. And Allah is over all things competent.” [Qur’an 5:19]

“This day I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favor upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion.” [Qur’an 5:3]

The religion of Islam is finally complete because Muhammad (saws) is the seal of all the Prophets and the last to convey the religion of Allah to mankind.

“Muhammad is not the father of anyone among you, but he is the messenger of Allah and the seal of the prophets; and Allah is aware of all things.” [Qur’an 33:40]

And say, “Ours is the religion of Allah. And who is better than Allah in [ordaining] religion? And we are worshipers of Him.” [Qur’an 2:138]

“And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.” [Qur’an 3:85]

Say, “We believe in Allah, and in what was sent down to us, and in what was sent down to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Patriarchs, and in what was given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction among any of them. To Him alone we are submitters.” [Qur’an 3:84]

“The Messenger believes in what has been revealed to him from his Lord, as do the men of faith. Each one of them believes in Allah, His angels, His books, and His Messengers. They say: ‘We make no distinction between one and another of His Messengers.’ And they say: ‘We hear, and we obey. We seek Thy forgiveness, Our Lord, and to Thee is the end of all journeys.'” [Qur’an 2:285]

Reference for above story: Stories in the Quran – Ibn Kathir – 110


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35 Responses to "Islam is the new Religion ! Fake Myth Exposed"

For My christian brothers………

The Bible has a scientific test how to identify a true believer. It is mentioned in the Gospel of Mark, Ch. No.16, Verse No.17 and 18 – It says that… ‘There will be signs for true believers and among the signs – In my name they shall cast out devils, they shall speak foreign tongues, new tongues, they shall take up serpents – And if they drink deadly poison, they shall not be harmed – And when they place their hand over the sick, they shall be cured.’ This is a scientific test – In scientific terminology, it is known as the ‘confirmatory test’ for a true Christian believer. In the past 10 years of my life, I have personally interacted with thousands of Christians, including missionaries – I have not come across a single Christian, who has passed this confirmatory test of the Bible. I have not come across a single Christian who took poison – I have not come across any who took poison, and who has not died. And in scientific terminology, this is also called as the ‘falsification test’ That means if a false person tries and does this test… takes poison, he will die. And a false person will not dare attempt this test – If you are not a true Christian believer, you will not dare attempt this test. Because you try and attempt the falsification test, you will fail. So a person who is not a true Christian believer, will never attempt this test. I have read the book ‘The Qur’an and the Bible in the light of history and science’ written by Dr. William Campbell. And I assume – that he is a true Christian believer, and at least I would like him to confirm to me about the falsification test. Please be rest assured… Please be rest assured, I will not ask Dr. William Campbell to have deadly poison – Because I don’t want to jeopardize the debate. What I’ll do – I will only ask him to speak in foreign tongues… In new languages. And as many of you may be aware that India is a land, which has more than 1000 languages and dialects. Only thing I request him is, to say these 3 words… ‘One hundred rupees’, in the 17 official languages. There are only 17 official languages in India and to make it easier for Dr. William Campbell, I have got a ‘One hundred-rupee note.’ And this has all the 17 languages mentioned here. Besides English and Hindi, I will help him. I give him a beginning –‘Ek sav rupaiya, In Hindi. The remaining 15 languages are here – I request him to read. I know the test says… ‘They will speak foreign languages on their own, without the help of reading’ – but I want to make the test easier, I want to see someone passing the test – I’ve not seen any one. So if he cannot say it on his own, or from his memory, at least read it. I don’t mind I’ll accept it. And I would request the chairperson to give it to Dr. William Campbell. He has his rebuttal – 15 languages, ‘Ek sav rupaiya’… 3 words only. What does the Bible say regarding ‘Hydrology’? Bible says in Genesis, Ch. No.9, Verse No.13 to 17, that… ‘After God, at the time of Noah submerged the world by flood, and after the flood’ subsided, He said… ‘I put up a rainbow in the sky as a promise to the humankind never to submerge the world again, by water. To the unscientific person it may be quite good… ‘Oh rainbow is a sign of Almighty God, never to submerge the world by flood again.’ But today we know very well, that rainbow is due to the refraction of sunlight, with rain or mist. Surely there must have been thousands of rainbows before the time of Noah, peace be upon him. To say it was not there before Noah’s time you have to assume that the law of refraction did not exist – which is unscientific.’

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Brother Mach says,
” The Koran is a disorganized and incomplete collection of sayings that Mohamet made after he awoke from his epileptic seizures. In these trances he said he heard an angel talk to him. Therefore you are incorrect to think “Allah” ever said anything in the Koran – it was a 600 winged angel that Mohamet dreamed about which allegedly told him to “Say” something.”

I say Qur’an is very unique. It does not start like once upon a time like a bedtime story book like the Bible. The Qur’an has a very unique sequence. It kept reveling for 23 years.The science in the Qur’an is far far superior for that time.And the prophet was a illiterate.The Qur’an is far far superior than Ur corrupted bible and u cant blame God for Ur ignorance.

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Brother Mack:
U can check my secont statement if u have eyes..i said “The first religious book i read was the Bible.”
I never made a statement
“I have read the book ‘The Qur’an and the Bible in the light of history and science’ written by Dr. William Campbell.”

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Macq is the biggest lier that i ever experienced in my life. I am sorry brother Macq. Let peace be with you……..

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it would appear MQ is not conversant with the contents of his bible on the issue of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, or rather he is ignorant of the provision of the bible, for the purpose of education let me start b telling him what Jesus told his disciples concerning his death and resurrection. when they asked him for a sign he reply that no sign shall be given unto them except the sign of Jonah and he said ” the son of man shall be in the belly of the earth for three days and three nights as Jonah was in the belly of the fish”. the logical question to you MQ is thus… How was Jonah in the belly of the fish dead or alive?. if Jonah was alive then it will mean that Jesus wasn’t dead all the while in the tomb. then again you might want to count on your fingers if you can actually find three days and night in your bible’s account of the death of Jesus. what you will find is that you have been taken on a roller coaster ride believing that Jesus Christ died for your sin. please you may wan to check your bible before replying this. i make bold to say that since according to Paul the apostle your your faith is hinged on the death and resurrection of Jesus i think you need a rethink and find your way to the only true religion ISLAM where your belief is not based on lies and untruths.

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Dear OWOSHO ADEBOLA:
You fail to acknowledge the fact that many eye-witnesses have testified that in 30 AD Jesus Christ died on the cross and rose again: Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, James, Peter, Paul, and Jude. Those men also mutually certify that hundreds of other eye-witnesses saw the same events with them.
Now we have the facts from those who saw and heard them, so this is the end of the story. Mohamed lived 600 years later and heard angels in his sleep. That is an interesting psychological problem he had – but why should it concern us? We only care about logic based on evidence – we are not concerned about ghost stories and visions that happen 600 years after the events. That is not contemporaneous evidence by eye-witness of a real events – so we must stick to what is true from the proof.
Now if you want to talk Bible, then first read the Bible so you will not be so ignorant. The prophet Jonah said that he died in the fish, “I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.” Jonah 2:6. Please educate yourself by reading a science book and you will learn where the whales swim – they do not swim inside the earth. So if you knew the texts then you would know that obviously Jonah died and his soul went into the earth but his body remained in the whale’s belly. So Jesus Christ’s body was in the tomb but he descended into hell to set the captives free from the power of death. I see you are very uneducated about these matters.
Jesus died and rose again – and we have sure evidence of this reality from many witnesses.
“Facts are stubborn things.”
– Mack

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“Facts are stubborn things.”

and hypocrietes are shameless !

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More illogical nonsense from moon-god’s slave boy. You quote Mohamed to support Mohamed. That is the circular reasoning fallacy.

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Hi Friend, its good to see a site on Islam open to comments, I am a Christian because I believe Jehovah became sin for us so that we can know life eternally and freedom from the curse of death and the law. He became like us so we can know victory joy and deliverance from the pain of sin and guilt. Yes to me God is one, not three but one. His name is Jesus. the savior of the world. If Allah had become a savior and died for me, who knows I may followed him, respectfully may I ask what can Allah give me that Jesus hasnt?

Paul.

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@paul, i dnt really get u; u say u believe in only one God, n dats jesus…do u mean like he is d one who created U,d world n everything in it? If yes,then,y do u think he has to come down to the world,allow one of his creations to kill him,so he can forgive their sin(s)-whatever that sin may be??? And if he is not the creator, then who is,n why dont u acknowledge Him n worship Him? As for your question, Allah is d One Who has everything to offer,nt jesus(A.S). Allah is the Creator of everything;including jesus! I jst saw ur blog,n it seems u r “learned” so i can safely “assume” u already knw one side of the story. In islam there is nothing like d ‘original sin’,it’s every soul for itself. The only thing Allah asks of us as His creations and slaves is to testify He is the only One worthy of worship n obey ALL His commands…n,jst like dat,we r saved from His anger n punishment in d hereafter. I suppose I can safely assume u believe God is Merciful n Forgiving; so how can u now believe dat He will hold one person for the sin of another,let alone d whole of mankind for d sin of Adam(A.S)? Doesn’t that make Him sound vindictive and unforgiving? And y would He,seriously, have to bring Himself to us,allow us to ridicule n insult Him,n then crucify Him(subhanallah) so He can forgive us? Confusing,dnt u think, considering He is our Lord n Creator?

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peace be upon you brother.

Welcome to this website…

I believe Jehovah became sin for us so that we can know life eternally and freedom from the curse of death and the law. He became like us so we can know victory joy and deliverance from the pain of sin and guilt

you mean he was not able to do without this ?

// Yes to me God is one, not three but one. His name is Jesus. the savior of the world//

How can a human be God ? How can Jesus a.s. be savior when God Father said he is the savior…?

bytheway is there any place in Bible where Jesus said Yes,Im GOd…? or he did something which was possible only by GOD. ?

//If Allah had become a savior and died for me, who knows I may followed him, respectfully may I ask what can Allah give me that Jesus hasnt? //

so,You are saying “GOD died to save you ? i mean seriously think it ….

and Why he was not able to forgive sin without dieing ?

Allah have given you Jesus a.s. … not to worship him but to follow him.

this always surprise me…. Peoples fro mWest so Educated…HIGH class and modern technologies… and they believe there creator died to save them ?

I pray to Allah swt that he open your heart and let you see the truth,
ameen

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You are ignorant of the difference between “to forgive” and “to redeem.”
If you eat a meal in a restaurant without paying, you owe the price. Your friend sitting with you can say, I forgive you – but that doesn’t pay for the meal. Your friend now must PAY the price for what you ate. Nothing is free – you can’t be forgiven by God for “free” because JUSTICE requires that the guilty PAY.
The wages of sin is death. Jesus paid the price for sin guilt – he redeemed by paying all the sins. Now if you want forgiveness – you must go to Jesus only – he holds forgiveness because he has paid the price of redemption – he died, descended into hell, and dumped the sins there. Now he rose again alive forever more – and offers eternal life by the redemption of his own blood.
But you must trust him alone – rejecting the lies of Mohamed. Mohamed was a dirty unforgiven sinner who never trusted Christ’s blood redemption. Therefore Mohamed’s good deeds mean nothing – he was a sinner and will pay for his own sins in hell forever because he never got redeemed. Mohamed knew nothing of the forgiveness of sins and redemption that is only found in Jesus Christ.

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Mack u are sounding like lower school boys. Your argument was pretty damn and illogical. It is obvious that jesus (may peace be upon him) was neither your lord nor died for your sins. Biblically neither of these was proven. Why dont you forget about your selfish desires of this world and be a beliver for many are out there unable to get the desired truth you obtain from this domain.

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Dear Ayodele:
You obviously have never actually had to prove anything to anybody. Scientists and lawyers have to prove things – they face sceptical audiences who must be persuaded by facts. Modern people know about science and logic. You cannot simply threaten to kill people to make them change their minds – this is the Moslem method. No, by science and law you must prove things by real demonstrable evidence – you must have confirmed results.

But your childish-level of Moslem thinking is only make-believe and religious superstition from the Koran – it is not scientific. Your beliefs simply repeat what Mohamed told you. But this is not fact – it could never prove anything in a court of law or in science. You obviously are ignorant of this sort of rational modern thinking.

If Mohamed said that Jesus Christ did not die on the cross or rise again – then he only made those allegations because he lived 600 years after the fact! He never knew for himself anything – he was not an eye witness. Since he knows nothing personally – he is not allowed to testify or present evidence.

It is a known fact that the Koran is the mythical beliefs that Mohamed repeated from his “visions” of an angel around 631 AD. Angel-visions are not facts, science, logic, or evidence! We don’t permit hearsay in court from people who heard stories from ghosts. Ghosts are not allowed to do scientific experiments. Your thinking is really quite pitiful – it is the thinking of an imbecile.

On the other hand, the Bible was written by real eye-witnesses who saw actual events occur in 30 AD – Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, James,Jude, Peter, and Paul. They wrote about what they saw and heard – therefore they are allowed to testify and present evidence.

This is simply a matter of using logic and common sense.

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So,by the science prove that paul saw Jesus not satan…

😉

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Angel-visions are not facts,

yes you are right….we also say…paul was lier…

ha ha ha

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U Don’t Know anything and now ur running away U Dont even know the spelling of Muslim and Quran and ur debating.
Allah says in Quran…………
‘Say: The Truth has come from your Lord. Let him who will, believe it, and let him who will, reject it.’
(al-Kahf 18: 29)
The Jews say, ‘The Christians have no valid grounds’; the Christians say, ‘The Jews have no valid grounds’; and both quote the Book [of God]. So do those who have no knowledge [of the Book] speak like them. But it is God who will decide between them on the Day of Ressurection about all on which they differ.’
(al-Baqarah 2: 113)
‘The true servants of the Most Merciful are those who behave gently and with humility on earth, and whenever the foolish quarrel with them, they reply with [words of] peace.’
(al-Furqan 25: 63)
So Brother Pease be with you……..

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Dear Karthik:

The words “Moslem” and “Koran” and “Mohamet” are Arabic words – they can be spelled many different ways in English. Kindly educate yourself before you accuse because when you make ignorant statements you discredit yourself.

And please do not remain so ignorant about basic knowledge of your religion. The Koran is a disorganized and incomplete collection of sayings that Mohamet made after he awoke from his epileptic seizures. In these trances he said he heard an angel talk to him. Therefore you are incorrect to think “Allah” ever said anything in the Koran – it was a 600 winged angel that Mohamet dreamed about which allegedly told him to “Say” something.

And what Mohamet said was 600 years later than the events of the Bible. Because he knew nothing personally, and only heard an “angel” – sound people who go by logic and science and rational thinking must all reject his new versions of Bible stories as being the product of his own imagination.

This is elementary logic.

Why do you lack this basic knowledge? Even if you are an uneducated person, this is not an excuse for you to also be irrational in your basic thinking methods.

– Mack.

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The Koran is a disorganized and incomplete collection of sayings that Mohamet made after he awoke from his epileptic seizures. In these trances he said he heard an angel talk to him. Therefore you are incorrect to think “Allah” ever said anything in the Koran – it was a 600 winged angel that Mohamet dreamed about which allegedly told him to “Say” something.

Mack,You hypocricy is visible…Quran came down in 23 years idiot….not in one night…so your bogus theory are lie…but i know….you cant speak truth….

Bible says Satan can change in to Angel of Light…kindly give proof whm Paul saw was Jesus not satan…

Yes,Angels said but angels are not liers like you.

lets see..kindly scientifically proof that jesus died on the cross.. and rose back again ?

let see how much truthful you are…

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Hi Slave boy:

I recounted the truth, that this Mohamet had dreams about an angel – I didn’t say it was only one night. So you are lying, not me.

Mohamet’s ramblings were only put into a “Koran” book several decades after he was dead.

Surviving Korans (Sana’a, Topkapi, and Samarkand manuscripts) show that they are incomplete and contain many mistakes – there is no “perfect” Koran – that is just a religious myth that ignorant people believe.

Anybody can claim that an “angel” talked to him while he was sleeping. This was probably a mental disorder – or demons – or both. We do not have to diagnose it – that is irrelevant – we reject whatever nonsense he said because we are logical and scientific.

The important points are: (1) Mohamet thought he heard an angel talking in his head; (2) only Mohamet saw this angel, nobody else; (3) Mohamet admitted that he did not hear from God, but just an “angel”; (4) Mohamet’s visions contradict eye-witness reports and valid history of facts recorded by real witnesses; (5) Mohamet never saw or heard the facts about the Bible because he lived 600 years later; (6) when Mohamet was asked by the sceptics to show supernatural proofs to validate his alleged encounters with an “angel,” Mohamet could not do so; (7) instead of providing supernatural proofs, Mohamet accused sceptics of being evil people because they refused to believe him and God was testing them to believe without proof; (8) Mohamet claimed that his recitations from the “angel” were so wonderful that people only needed to hear them to believe them – yet the copies of his Koran show changes, mistakes, confusion, and historical errors; (9) Mohamet claimed his angel was from God, but Mohamet also claimed that there were “good” Djinn who listened to him too – thus showing that Mohamet had no sense to reject devils; (10) Mohamet and his successors had to resort to killing people to coerce them by force into believing his stories.

There are many other points that could be raised, but how many do logical people need before they understand the truth? Logical people are reasonable – they do not hold to nonsensical beliefs after being confronted by so many rational facts and evidences that clearly demonstrate that they come from an unreliable source.

On the other hand, it is irrational people and fanatics who are unreasonable in their position – they hold to their beliefs even when evidence, logic, and common sense tell them that they have been mistaken.

Thus reasonable people will reject the Koran because it comes from an unreliable source who had no proof other than his own visions; and they will accept instead first-hand testimony by eye-witnesses in the Bible.

This is the logic which rational modern people follow.

– Mack.

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and Angel said to him to say those words to peoples ,thats why he said “Say” this believes or unbelievers!

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Brother Mac I am so sorry for this but i have to tell u this.I am so sorry if i hurt you.

Have u read the Bible at least completely? I know ur answer is no. Its not ur fault.U go behind what the church teaches you. see brother Want u to reach the paradise thats y i was explaining u the truth.The answer is with u if u read the entire Bible.Ur lips may lie but not ur heart. peace be with u

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If u want to lie again i don’t have problem.Its up to you.
Allah say’s in Quran……..
‘And they say, ‘None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian.’ These are their wishful beliefs. Say, ‘Produce your evidence if what you say is true!’
Nay, whosoever surrenders his whole being unto God, and is a doer of good, shall have his reward from his Lord; on them shall be no fear, neither shall they sorrow.’
(al-Baqarah 2: 111-12)

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Please brother,I am Karthik basicall i was born in a hindu family.I was seeking for the truth,The first religious book i read was the Bible. The word Christianity is not mentioned in the entire Bible.I know the whole story of Jesus paid for ur sin or who so ever belivies that he died in the cross for the sinners.Is it logical? Do u think………..,ok lets come to the point.You believe because of the bible.Do u think entire Bible is correct? What about the illogical statements and false mentioned in the Bible?
Bible says in Genesis Ch. No. 1 Verses No. 3 and 5,…‘Light was created on the first day.’ Genesis, Ch., 1 Verses, 14 to 19… ‘The cause of light – stars and the sun, etc. was created on the fourth day’. How can the cause of light be created on the 4th day – later than the light which came into existence on the first day? – It is unscientific.

Point No.3 – Further, the, Bible says Genesis, Ch. 1, Verses 9 to 13… ‘Earth was created on the 3rd day. How can you have a night and day without the earth ? The day depends upon the rotation of the Earth Without the earth created, how can you have a night and day?

Point No..4 – Genesis, Ch. No. 1 Verses 9 to 13 says… ‘Earth was created on the third day.’ Genesis Ch. No. 1 Verses 14 to 19 says…‘The Sun and the Moon were created on the fourth day.’ Today science tells us… ‘Earth is part of the parent body… the sun.’ It cannot come into existence before the sun – It is unscientific.

Point No. 5 – The Bible says in Genesis, Ch. No.1, Verse No. 11 to 13…‘The vegetation, the herbs the shrubs, the trees – they were created on the 3rd day And the Sun, Genesis, Ch. No. 1, Verses. 14 to 19, was created on the 4th day. How can the vegetation come into existence without sunlight, and how can they survive without sunlight ?

Point No.6 – The Bible says in Genesis, Ch. 1, Verses No.16, that…‘God created two lights the greater light, the Sun to rule the day, and the lesser light the Moon, to rule the night. The actual translation, if you go to the Hebrew text, it is ‘lamps’…‘Lamps having lights of its own.’ And that you will come to know better, if you read both the Verses – Genesis, Ch. No.1, Verse. 16, as well as 17. Verse No.17 says…‘And Almighty God placed them in the firmament, to give light to the earth… To give light to the earth.’ Indicating, that Sun and the Moon has its own light – which is in contradiction with established scientific knowledge that we have. There are certain people who try and reconciliate, and say that the six days mentioned in the Bible, it actually refers to epocs – like the Qur’an long periods – not six, 24 hour day. It is illogical – you read in the Bible, evening, morning – It clearly states 24 hours, it indicates. But even if I use the concordance approach – no problem. I agree with your illogical argument – Yet they will only be able to solve the 1st scientific error of 6 days creation, and second, of first day ‘light’ and 3rd day ‘earth.’ The remaining four, yet they cannot solve. Some further say that… ‘If it is a 24-hour period, why cannot the vegetables survive for one 24 hour day without sunlight?’ I say ‘Fine – If you say that the vegetables were created before the sun, and can survive for one 24-hour day, I have got no objection. But you cannot say the days mentioned are 24 hours as well as epochs – You cannot have the cake and eat it, both. If you say it is long period, you solve Point No.1 and 3, the remaining 4 are yet there. If you say the days are 24 hours day, you solve only Point No.5 – the remaining 5 are yet there – It becomes unscientific. I leave it to Dr. William Campbell, whether he wants to say… ‘It is long period’, and say that there are only 4 scientific errors – or say… ‘It is a 24 hour day’, and say there is only 5 scientific errors in the creation of the universe.

Point No. 7 – Regarding the concept of Earth, there are various Scientists who have described… ‘How will the world end.’ Hypothesis – Some may be right, some may be wrong. But either the world will perish or the world will live forever. Both cannot take place simultaneously – It is unscientific. But this is exactly what the Bible says. It is mentioned in the Bible, in the book of Hebrews, Ch. No.1 Verses No.10 and 11, and the book of Psalms, Ch. No.102, Verse No.25 and 26, that…‘Almighty God created the Heavens and the Earth, and they will perish.’ Exactly opposite is mentioned in the book of Ecclesiastics, Ch. No.1, Verse No.4, and the book of Psalms, Ch. No.78, Verse No.69, that… ‘The earth will abide forever.’ I leave it to Dr. William Campbell to choose which of the two Verses are unscientific – the first pair or the second pair. One has to be unscientific – Both cannot take place. The world cannot abide forever as well as perish – It is unscientific.

Point No. 8 – Regarding ‘the Heavens’, the Bible says in Job, Ch. 26, Verse 11, that…‘The pillars of the Heaven will tremble.’ Qur’an says in Surah Luqman, Ch. 31, Verse No.10, that…‘The Heavens are without any pillars – Don`t you see? Don’t you see the Heavens are without any pillars? – Bible says heaven have got pillars.

Point No. 9 – Not only do the Heavens have got pillars – Bible says in the first book of Samuel, Ch. No.2 Verses No.8, as well as the book of Job Ch. No.9, Verse No.6, and the book of Psalms Ch. No.75, Verse No.3, that… ‘Even the earth have got pillars.’

Point No. 10 – In the field of ‘Diet and Nutrition’ lets analyse, what does the Bible say. The Bible says in the book of Genesis, Ch. No.1, Verse No.29, that… ‘God has given you all the herbs bearing seeds, the trees bearing fruits – those that bear seed, as meat for you.’ New International Version says… ‘The seed bearing plants, and the trees bearing fruits bearing seeds are food for you, all of them.’ Today, even a layman knows that there are several poisonous plants like wild berries, stritchi, datura, plants containing alkaloid, polyander, bacaipoid – that which if you ingest, if you eat there are high possibilities you may die. How come the Creator of the universe and the human beings, does not know, that if you have these plants, you will die. I hope Dr. William Campbell does not give these vegetarian diet to his patients.

Point No. 11 – The Bible has a scientific test how to identify a true believer. It is mentioned in the Gospel of Mark, Ch. No.16, Verse No.17 and 18 – It says that… ‘There will be signs for true believers and among the signs – In my name they shall cast out devils, they shall speak foreign tongues, new tongues, they shall take up serpents – And if they drink deadly poison, they shall not be harmed – And when they place their hand over the sick, they shall be cured.’ This is a scientific test – In scientific terminology, it is known as the ‘confirmatory test’ for a true Christian believer. In the past 10 years of my life, I have personally interacted with thousands of Christians, including missionaries – I have not come across a single Christian, who has passed this confirmatory test of the Bible. I have not come across a single Christian who took poison – I have not come across any who took poison, and who has not died. And in scientific terminology, this is also called as the ‘falsification test’ That means if a false person tries and does this test… takes poison, he will die. And a false person will not dare attempt this test – If you are not a true Christian believer, you will not dare attempt this test. Because you try and attempt the falsification test, you will fail. So a person who is not a true Christian believer, will never attempt this test. I have read the book ‘The Qur’an and the Bible in the light of history and science’ written by Dr. William Campbell. And I assume – that he is a true Christian believer, and at least I would like him to confirm to me about the falsification test. Please be rest assured… Please be rest assured, I will not ask Dr. William Campbell to have deadly poison – Because I don’t want to jeopardize the debate. What I’ll do – I will only ask him to speak in foreign tongues… In new languages. And as many of you may be aware that India is a land, which has more than 1000 languages and dialects. Only thing I request him is, to say these 3 words… ‘One hundred rupees’, in the 17 official languages. There are only 17 official languages in India and to make it easier for Dr. William Campbell, I have got a ‘One hundred-rupee note.’ And this has all the 17 languages mentioned here. Besides English and Hindi, I will help him. I give him a beginning –‘Ek sav rupaiya, In Hindi. The remaining 15 languages are here – I request him to read. I know the test says… ‘They will speak foreign languages on their own, without the help of reading’ – but I want to make the test easier, I want to see someone passing the test – I’ve not seen any one. So if he cannot say it on his own, or from his memory, at least read it. I don’t mind I’ll accept it. And I would request the chairperson to give it to Dr. William Campbell. He has his rebuttal – 15 languages, ‘Ek sav rupaiya’… 3 words only. What does the Bible say regarding ‘Hydrology’? Bible says in Genesis, Ch. No.9, Verse No.13 to 17, that… ‘After God, at the time of Noah submerged the world by flood, and after the flood’ subsided, He said… ‘I put up a rainbow in the sky as a promise to the humankind never to submerge the world again, by water. To the unscientific person it may be quite good… ‘Oh rainbow is a sign of Almighty God, never to submerge the world by flood again.’ But today we know very well, that rainbow is due to the refraction of sunlight, with rain or mist. Surely there must have been thousands of rainbows before the time of Noah, peace be upon him. To say it was not there before Noah’s time you have to assume that the law of refraction did not exist – which is unscientific.’

Point No. 12 – In the field of medicine, the Bible says in the book of Leveticus, Ch. No.14, Verse No.49 to 53 – it gives a novel way for disinfecting a house from plague of leprosy… disinfecting a house from plague of leprosy. It says that… ‘Take two birds, kill one bird, take wood, scale it – and the other living bird, dip it in water… and under running water – later on sprinkle the house 7 times with it. Sprinkle the house with blood to disinfect against plague of leprosy? You know blood is a good media of germs, bacteria, as well as toxin – I hope Dr. William Campbell does not use this method of disinfecting the OT, the operation theatre.

Point No. 13 – It is mentioned in the book of Leveticus, Ch. No.12, Verse No.1 to 5, and we know medically, that after a mother gives birth to a child, the post-partal period, it is unhygienic. To say it is ‘unclean’, Religiously – I have got no objection. But Leviticus, Ch. No.12 Verse No.1 to 5, says that… ‘After a woman gives birth to a male child, she will be unclean for 7 days, and the period of uncleanliness will continue for 33 days more. If she gives birth to a female child, she will be unclean for two weeks, and the period of uncleanliness will continue for 66 days. In short, if a woman gives birth to a male child… ‘a son’, she is unclean for 40 days. If she gives birth to a female child… ‘a daughter’, she is unclean for 80 days. I would like Dr. William Campbell to explain to me scientifically, how come a woman remains unclean for double the period, if she gives birth to a female child, as compared to a male child.

Point No. 14 – The Bible also has a very good test for adultery – How to come to know a woman has committed adultery. In the book of Numbers, Ch. no.5 Verse No..11 to 31, I’ll just say in brief, it says that… ‘The priest should take holy water in a vessel, take dust from the floor, and put it into the vessel – And that is the bitter water ‘And after cursing it, give it to the woman And if the woman has committed adultery, after she drinks it, the curse will enter her body, the stomach will swell, the thigh will rot, and she shall be cursed by the people. If the woman has not committed adultery, she will remain clean and she will bear the seed. A novel method of identifying whether a woman has committed adultery or not. You know today in the world, there are thousands of cases pending in different parts of the world, in different courts of law – only on the assumption that someone has alleged that a woman has committed adultery. I had read in the newspapers, and I came to know from the media, that the President of this great country Mr. Bill Clinton, he was involved in a sex scandal about 2 years back. I wonder, that why did not the American court use this ‘bitter water test’ for adultery? He would have gone scot-free immediately. Why did not the Christian missionaries of this great country, specially those who are in the medical field like my respected Dr. William Campbell, use this bitter water test to bail out their President, immediately.

Point No. 15 – ‘Mathematics’ is a branch, which is closely associated with science, with which you can solve problems, etc. There are thousands of contradictions in the Bible – hundreds deal with mathematics, and I’ll first touch on few of them. It is mentioned in Ezra, Ch. No.2, Verse No.1, and Nehemiah, Ch. No.7, Verse No.6, the context that… ‘When the people returned from exile, from Babylon, when king Nebucheldeser of Babylon, when he released the men from Israel, they came back from captivity’ – and the list of the people are given. The list is given in Ezra, Ch. No.2, Verse No.2 to 63, and Nehemiah Ch. No.7, Verse No.7 up to 65; the list is given with the names as well as number of people released. In these 60 Verses there are no less than 18 times – the name is exactly the same but the number is different. There are no less than 18 contradictions in less than 60 Verses, of these two Chapters. This is the list – I don’t have time to run through the list – There are no less than 18 different contradictions in less than 60 Verses.

Point No. 16 – Further it is mentioned in Ezra, Ch. No.2 Verse No.64 that… ‘The total congregation, if you add up… if you add up, it comes to 42,360.’ And if you read in Nehemiah, Ch. No.7, Verse No.66, there also the total is the same 42,360. But if you add up all these verses – which I had to do my homework – this is the list of Ezra… this is the list of Nehemiah. Ezra Ch. No 2, Nehemiah Ch. No 7 – If you add up – I had to do my homework…if you add up, Ezra Ch. No. 2 – It does not come to 42,360 – it comes to 29,818. And if you add up Nehemiah, Ch. No. 7, even then it does not come to 42,360 – It comes to 31,089. The author of the Bible, presumed to be ‘Almighty God’, does not know simple addition. If you give this problem, even to a person who has passed elementary school, he will be able to get the right answer. If you add up all the 60 Verses, it is so easy. Almighty God did not know adding – Nauzubillah… if we presume, that this is the word of God.

Point No. 17 – Further, if we read, in Ezra Ch. No. 2, Verse No. 65, it says…There were 200 singing men and women – Nehemiah Ch. No. 7, Verse No. 67…‘There were 245 singing men and women.’ Were they 200 – or were they 245 singing men and women? Context is the same – A mathematical contradiction.

Point No. 18 – It is mentioned in the 2nd Kings, Ch. No 24, Verse No 8, that…‘Jehoiachin was 18 years old, when he began to reign Jerusalem, and he reigned for 3 months and 10 days. 2nd Chronicles, Ch. No 36, Verse No 9, says that…‘Jehoiachin was 8 years old when he began to reign and he reigned for 3 months, 10 days. Was Jehoiachin 18 years when he began to reign, or was he 8 years old?

Point No. 19 – Did he reign for 3 months, or did he reign for 3 months 10 days?

Point No. 20 – Further, it is mentioned in the 1st Kings, Ch. No 7, Verse No 26, that…‘In Solomon’s temple, in his molten sea, he had 2000 baths. In 2nd Chronicles, Ch. No 4, Verse No 5, he had 3000 baths. Did he have 2000 baths or did he have 3000 baths? – That, There is a clear-cut mathematical contradiction.

Point No. 21 – Furthermore. it is mentioned in the First Kings, Ch. No. 15, Verse No. 33, that… ‘Basha, he died in the 26th year of reign of Asa.’ And 2nd Chronicles Ch. No 16, Verse No 1, says that…‘Basha invaded Judah in the 36th years of the reign of Asa.’ How can Basha invade 10 years after his death? – It is unscientific.

(Point No. 22 – Almighty God – He said, “I put up a rainbow in the sky, as a promise to the human kind, never to submerge the world again by water”.)

Brother Do You know How Many mistakes are there in bible……….These are just samples. Can u claim that this book of several mistakes can be the word of god.Think Brother………….

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Dear Karthik – In this second comment of yours you make to us this statement: “I have read the book ‘The Qur’an and the Bible in the light of history and science’ written by Dr. William Campbell.”

When we double check your statement, we discover that what you really did was repeat a post made by a “Dr. Naik” on another website.

So when you wrote that you had read that book, you were lying. You never read the book – you only cut and paste a statement by Dr. Naik in which he said that he read Dr. Campbell’s book. But you never read the book – so what you did was produce a lie. You told us that it was a book you read, but you were only copying what somebody else wrote.

So this is a deception by you. You are trying to trick people into thinking that you have studied these matters – but in reality you are only copying what you found on another website. This is false behaviour by a person who is not concerned about truth. If you were a truthful person you would not try to scam us with a fake post in which you lie about reading books that you never read before.

The Bible says, “And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:” 2 Thessalonians 2:10-11.

Unfortunately you chose to leave a dishonest comment, so it is not proper that I should reply to a liar with with more information on this subject. You need to first decide that you love the truth, and then seek the light from God to be saved. Until then, I am unable to provide you with any help.

– Mack.

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and what you trying to do mach..infact you are not only lier but hypocrite too …

The Bible says, “And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:” 2 Thessalonians 2:10-11.

and please keep paul letters in ur pocket…if you want us to listen,then first kindly tell us ,Who allowed paul to add his own words in bible ?

We don’t believe on corrupted book,

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Slave boy:

These comments are on your post – you attempt to prove that Islam is not a newly invented religion 600 years after the fact. But your post failed.

You quoted Mohamet to prove Mohamet – this is the logical fallacy called “circular reasoning” – it is also called, “petitio principii” or “begging the question”.

Please educate yourself on modern thinking, slave boy.

Slaves don’t think for themselves – they can only do what they are told by their master – or else they get whipped. Did Allah whip you until believed him?

Instead of proving your position (that the Koran was not invented 600 years late) you try to shift the burden so that somebody has to prove the Bible to you. Thus you prove that you know you are wrong.

We only have to compare how the source acquired the information to determine that there are two different methods:

#1 method: the Bible comes from first-hand reports of events recorded by many eye-witnesses;

#2 method: the Koran comes from one man’s visions of an angel 600 years after the facts.

Rational people who accept common sense will be able to select between the two methods which one is more reliable.

Can you?

– Mack

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what do you say to this Mark?
plz take time to hear the TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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more proof for the bible!!!!!

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Trinity God is fake God…

God of Israel said he is 1,not 3 in 1 …

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What I am a lier? I clearly mentioned Dr.Will…. name in that.My problem is i don’t know english so much. Everybody knows those are from Dr.Zakir who is my teacher and my brother.Dr. William cant reply for one question of that how will u reply?I am so sorry for u…..
I ll tell i a read Bible Did i say i read fully? I am not a Muslim I am a person seeking truth and want to go in straight way and its not that easy for any one except those who can get the guideline from Allah.
May be i lied ok fine. Is the verses from the bible which i wrote is wrong? is it? We can see clearly that u r very ideological. If ur not accepting that the bible is wrong that means ur pointing out to god
those mistakes.and if those mistakes are not from god and its from the book only then how can u follow a book of mistakes.

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U can check my secont statement if u have eyes..i said “The first religious book i read was the Bible.”
I never made a statement
“I have read the book ‘The Qur’an and the Bible in the light of history and science’ written by Dr. William Campbell.”
In fact i only watch that debate in VCD……..

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actually macq started work recently…he don;t know…we have already exposed his lies…!

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